tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.comments2023-04-29T00:44:14.270-07:00Renouncing Rome: A Defense of orthodox Christianity according to the Reformed FaithPax Christus!http://www.blogger.com/profile/08276297788828097439noreply@blogger.comBlogger96125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-17764376049388595782022-09-12T12:55:41.526-07:002022-09-12T12:55:41.526-07:00RIPRIPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-56251317143711902442022-09-12T12:54:53.479-07:002022-09-12T12:54:53.479-07:00What a moronic thing to sayWhat a moronic thing to sayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-35051353285800376872018-11-23T23:50:56.293-08:002018-11-23T23:50:56.293-08:00http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bghr/2012/02/24/how-t...http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bghr/2012/02/24/how-to-impact-your-world-and-be-a-world-changerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-38378130861359948492018-11-23T23:46:24.913-08:002018-11-23T23:46:24.913-08:00i was wondering the same thingi was wondering the same thingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-49386925400164804402018-09-19T13:00:16.287-07:002018-09-19T13:00:16.287-07:00And we should abandon Sola Scriptura for?
What ot...And we should abandon Sola Scriptura for? <br />What other source of infallible truth is there outside the Bible?<br />The false authority of Rome bases on a mythological understanding of Mt.16?Joe Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12180506862722490118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-71432017994153311982018-09-19T12:57:59.321-07:002018-09-19T12:57:59.321-07:00Let me ask this: Even if Peter was the rock, where...Let me ask this: Even if Peter was the rock, where does it say anywhere in the Bible that whatever authority was given to Peter (binding and losing, keys, etc, ) would be passed to anybody else? There's nothing.<br /><br />That is the end of the story for apostolic succession unless somebody can find evidence to support itJoe Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12180506862722490118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-45277169766567822372017-10-25T23:36:27.797-07:002017-10-25T23:36:27.797-07:00oneness winoneness winAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05401350684477629761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-77046299271835311062017-10-25T23:36:13.748-07:002017-10-25T23:36:13.748-07:00oneness winoneness winAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05401350684477629761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-39132763860978678162017-05-10T08:56:33.459-07:002017-05-10T08:56:33.459-07:00did pastor josh ever answer carmenn massa?did pastor josh ever answer carmenn massa?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14301645507461633855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-31977983104007649302014-09-15T21:15:38.391-07:002014-09-15T21:15:38.391-07:00Please see the rest of the Church Father's say...Please see the rest of the Church Father's saying on Deification (Men Becoming God) at http://manbecomegod.blogspot.com/<br />They are listed on the right sidebar. Be sure to see the other posts that deal with Christians losing this ancient belief.<br />I'm just curious if you will delete all of this information because it may not go with your agenda. I'll check back from time to time to see.<br />Thank youHannah Rebekahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05763167517979885846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-38113483061359063302014-09-15T21:12:26.170-07:002014-09-15T21:12:26.170-07:00Hippolytus (AD 170-236)
Hippolytus of Rome, in...Hippolytus (AD 170-236)<br /><br /><br /> <br />Hippolytus of Rome, in the early third century, wrote:<br /><br />"Now in all these acts He offered up, as the first-fruits, His own manhood, in order that thou, when thou art in tribulation, mayest not be disheartened, but, confessing thyself to be a man (of like nature with the Redeemer,) mayest dwell in expectation of also receiving what the Father has granted unto this Son...The Deity (by condescension) does not diminish anything of the dignity of His divine perfection having made you even God unto his glory." (Hippolytus, Refutation of All Heresies 10:29-30, in Ante-Nicene Fathers 5:152.)<br /><br />“And you shall receive the kingdom of heaven, you who, while you sojourned in this life, knew the Celestial King. And you shall be a companion of the Deity, and a co-heir with Christ, no longer enslaved by lusts or passions, and never again wasted by disease. For you have become God...”<br /><br />“And God called man His likeness from the beginning, and has evinced in a figure His love towards you. And provided you obey His solemn injunctions, and becomest a faithful follower of Him who is good, you shall resemble Him, inasmuch as you shall have honour conferred upon you by Him. For the Deity, (by condescension,) does not diminish anything of the divinity of His divine perfection; having made you even God unto His glory!” (Hippolytus. Refutation of All Heresies (Book X, Chapter 30) Copyright © 2007 by Kevin Knight).<br /><br />“The Father of immortality sent the immortal Son and Word into the world, who came to man in order to wash him with water and the Spirit; and He, begetting us again to incorruption of soul and body, breathed into us the breath (spirit) of life, and endued us with an incorruptible panoply. If, therefore, man has become immortal, he will also be God. And if he is made God by water and the Holy Spirit after the regeneration of the layer he is found to be also joint-heir with Christ after the resurrection from the dead.” (Hippolytus. The Discourse on the Holy Theophany, Chapter 8. Copyright © 2007 by Kevin Knight).<br />Hannah Rebekahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05763167517979885846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-7712064396741700932014-09-15T21:11:35.429-07:002014-09-15T21:11:35.429-07:00continued:
“And:...if one knows himself, he will k...continued:<br />“And:...if one knows himself, he will know God, and knowing God will become like God...His is beauty, true beauty, for it is God, and that man becomes god, since God wills it. So Heraclitus was right when he said, "Men are gods, and gods are men." (Clement of Alexandria, The Instructor, 3.1 see also Clement, Stromateis, 23.)<br /><br /><br />Concerning Bible tampering, Clement of Alexandria also cites from a passage, which he called "scripture," but of which can't now be found in modern Bibles. The scripture talked about how the deified saints would inherit God's power and glory.<br /><br />One finds in Clement's work citations of all the books of the New Testament with the exception of: Philemon, James, II Peter, II John, and III John. <br /><br />On the other hand he considered these writings, not in the present New Testament, of value: Gospel of the Egyptians, Gospel of the Hebrews, Traditions of Matthias, Preaching of Peter, I Clement, Epistle of Barnabas, Didache, Shepherd of Hermas, Apocalypse of Peter. <br />Hannah Rebekahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05763167517979885846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-86813703319712829382014-09-15T21:10:28.421-07:002014-09-15T21:10:28.421-07:00Clement of Alexandria (C.150-215)
Clement of A...Clement of Alexandria (C.150-215)<br /><br /><br /> <br />Clement of Alexandria, was a Christian theologian and the head of the noted Catechetical School of Alexandria. Clement is best remembered as the teacher of Origen. Clement is counted as one of the early Church Fathers. He also taught the doctrine of deification:<br /><br />“Yea, I say, the Word of God became a man so that you might learn from a man how to become a god.” (Protrepticus (Exhortation to the Greeks), 1.)<br /><br />“But if thou dost not believe the prophets,... the Lord Himself shall speak to thee, "who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God, but humbled Himself" ... yea, I say, the Word of God became man, that thou mayest learn from man how man may become God. Is it not then monstrous, my friends, that while God is ceaselessly exhorting us to virtue, we should spurn His kindness and reject salvation?” (Protrepticus (Exhortation to the Greeks), 1.8.4)<br /><br />Clement says regarding those who become deified that “’they will be enthroned along with the other gods, who are set first in order under the Savior.’” Note that the “other gods” are clearly subordinate to the Savior, but yet are still entitled to be designated “gods.”(George W. Butterworth, “The Deification of Man in Clement of Alexandria,” Journal of Theological Studies 17 (1916): 157-69, at page 161, quoting Stromateis 3.41.23-5.)<br /><br />Clement said, “from faith we rise to God through gnosis. From gnosis we see God face to face, and we are deified: "Being baptized, we are illuminated; illuminated, we become sons (i.e., children or heirs); being made ...(heirs), we are made perfect; being made perfect, we are made immortal, as the Scripture says 'Ye are gods...'" (Stromateis, ch. 6).<br />“It [the knowledge of the Gospel] leads us to the endless and perfect end, teaching us beforehand the future life that we shall lead, according to God, and with gods; after we are freed from all punishment and penalty which we undergo, in consequence of our sins, for salutary discipline. After which redemption the reward and the honors are assigned to those who have become perfect; when they have got done with perfection, and ceased from all service, though it be holy service, and among saints. They become pure in heart, and near to the Lord, there awaits their restoration to everlasting contemplation; and they are called by the appellation of gods, being destined to sit on thrones with the other gods that have been first put in their places by the Savior.” (Stromata 7:10)<br />“Those who have been perfected are given their reward and their honors. They have done with their purification, they have done with the rest of their service, though it be a holy service, with the holy; now they become pure in heart, and because of their close intimacy with the Lord there awaits them a restoration to eternal contemplation; and they have received the title of "gods" since they are destined to be enthroned with the other "gods" who are ranked next below the savior.” (Henry Bettenson, The Early Christian Fathers: A Selection from the Writings of the Fathers from St. Clement of Rome to St. Athanasius (London: Oxford University Press, 1956), 243–244. Stromata 7:10 (55–56).)<br />Hannah Rebekahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05763167517979885846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-36601481696401105502014-09-15T21:08:48.222-07:002014-09-15T21:08:48.222-07:00"But man receives progression and increase to..."But man receives progression and increase towards God. For God is always the same, so also man, when found in God, shall always progress toward God." (very LDS)<br /><br />“We were not made gods at our beginning, but first we were made men, then, in the end, gods.” (Henry Bettenson, The Early Christian Fathers: A Selection from the Writings of the Fathers from St. Clement of Rome to St. Athanasius (London: Oxford University Press, 1956), 94.)<br />“How then will any be a god, if he has not first been made a man? How can any be perfect when he has only lately been made man? How immortal, if he has not in his mortal nature obeyed his maker? For one's duty is first to observe the discipline of man and thereafter to share in the glory of God” (Irenaeus, "Against Heresies," Ante-Nicene Fathers 1:419, chapter 6.)<br />“Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Word of God, of his boundless love, became what we are that he might make us what he himself is.” (Henry Bettenson, The Early Christian Fathers: A Selection from the Writings of the Fathers from St. Clement of Rome to St. Athanasius (London: Oxford University Press, 1956), 95–96.)<br />“But of what gods [does he speak]?[Of those] to whom He says, "I have said, Ye are gods, and all sons of the Most High." To those, no doubt, who have received the grace of the "adoption, by which we cry, Abba Father."” (Henry Bettenson, The Early Christian Fathers: A Selection from the Writings of the Fathers from St. Clement of Rome to St. Athanasius (London: Oxford University Press, 1956), 106. Citing Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 4.38 cp. 4.11.)<br /><br />“For he who holds, without pride and boasting, the true glory (opinion) regarding created things and the Creator, who is the Almighty God of all, and who has granted existence to all; [such an one,] continuing in His love and subjection, and giving of thanks, shall also receive from Him the greater glory of promotion, looking forward to the time when he shall become like Him who died for him, for He, too, "was made in the likeness of sinful flesh," to condemn sin, and to cast it, as now a condemned thing, away beyond the flesh, but that He might call man forth into His own likeness, assigning him as [His own] imitator to God, and imposing on him His Father's law, in order that he may see God, and granting him power to receive the Father; [being] the Word of God who dwelt in man, and became the Son of man, that He might accustom man to receive God, and God to dwell in man, according to the good pleasure of the Father.” (Irenaeus, "Against Heresies," Ante-Nicene Fathers 1:450, chapter 6.)<br />Said one Protestant theologian of Irenaeus:<br />“Participation in God was carried so far by Irenaeus as to amount to deification. 'We were not made gods in the beginning,' he says, 'but at first men, then at length gods.' This is not to be understood as mere rhetorical exaggeration on Irenaeus' part. He meant the statement to be taken literally.” (Arthur C. McGiffert, A History of Christian Thought, Vol. 1—Early and Eastern: From Jesus to John of Damascus (New York: Scribner's Sons, 1932), 141.)<br />Hannah Rebekahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05763167517979885846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-90838543065227364012014-09-15T21:07:56.108-07:002014-09-15T21:07:56.108-07:00Irenaeus, Bishop of Lyons (ca. AD 115-202)
Irenae...Irenaeus, Bishop of Lyons (ca. AD 115-202)<br /><br />Irenaeus was a Bishop of Lyons, formerly Lugdunum in Gaul, France. He was an early church father and apologist, and his writings were formative in the early development of Christian theology. He was a disciple of Polycarp of Smyrna, who was said to be a disciple of John the Evangelist. Saint Irenaeus, who may justly be called the first Biblical theologian among the ancient Christians, was not considered heretic or unorthodox in traditional Christian circles. He also shared a belief in theosis or deification. Irenaeus considers the doctrine clearly Biblical, just as the LDS do:<br /><br />"If the Word was made man, it is that men might become gods" (Against Heresies, Bk. V. Pref. col. 1035).<br /><br />St. Irenaeus explained, "the Word of God, our Lord Jesus Christ, who did, through His transcendent love, become what we are, that He might bring us to be even what He is Himself."<br /><br />“While man gradually advances and mounts towards perfection; that is, he approaches the eternal. The eternal is perfect; and this is God. Man has first to come into being, then to progress, and by progressing come to manhood, and having reached manhood to increase, and thus increasing to persevere, and persevering to be glorified, and thus see his Lord.” (Henry Bettenson, The Early Christian Fathers: A Selection from the Writings of the Fathers from St. Clement of Rome to St. Athanasius (London: Oxford University Press, 1956), 94.)<br />“For the Lord is the good man of the house, who rules the entire house of His Father; and who delivers a law suited both for slaves and those who are as yet undisciplined; and gives fitting precepts to those that are free, and have been justified by faith, as well as throws His own inheritance open to those that are sons.” (Irenaeus, "Against Heresies," (book 4, chapter 9) Ante-Nicene Fathers 1:472.)<br />“...but man receives advancement and increase towards God. For as God is always the same, so also man, when found in God, shall always go on towards God.” (Irenaeus, "Against Heresies," (book 4, chapter 11) Ante-Nicene Fathers 1:474)<br />“...and to whomsoever He shall say, ‘Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you for eternity,’ (Mat. 25:34) these do receive the kingdom forever, and make constant advance in it...” (Irenaeus, "Against Heresies," (book 4, chapter 28.3) Ante-Nicene Fathers 1:501)<br />Like the LDS, Irenaeus did not believe that this belief in any way displaced God, Christ, or the Holy Ghost:<br />“there is none other called God by the Scriptures except the Father of all, and the Son, and those who possess the adoption....Since, therefore, this is sure and steadfast, that no other God or Lord was announced by the Spirit, except Him who, as God, rules over all, together with His Word, and those who receive the Spirit of adoption.” (Irenaeus, "Against Heresies," Ante-Nicene Fathers 1)<br /><br />“Do we cast blame on him [God] because we were not made gods from the beginning, but were at first created merely as men, and then later as gods? Although God has adopted this course out of his pure benevolence, that no one may charge him with discrimination or stinginess, he declares, "I have said, ye are gods; and all of you are sons of the Most High." “... For it was necessary at first that nature be exhibited, then after that what was mortal would be conquered and swallowed up in immortality." (Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 4.38. Cp. 4.11 (2)<br /><br />"But man receives progression and increase towards God. For God is always the same, so also man, when found in God, shall always progress toward God." (very LDS)<br />Hannah Rebekahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05763167517979885846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-2136180964412905102014-09-15T21:05:50.248-07:002014-09-15T21:05:50.248-07:00Justin Martyr (100-165 AD)
Justin Martyr, also...Justin Martyr (100-165 AD)<br /><br /><br /> <br />Justin Martyr, also known as Justin the Martyr, Justin of Caesarea or Justin the Philosopher was an early Christian apologist and saint. His works represent the earliest surviving Christian apologies of notable size. Most of what is known about the life of Justin Martyr comes from his own writings. According to church tradition Justin suffered martyrdom at Rome under the Emperor Marcus Aurelius when Rusticus was prefect of the city (between 162 and 168).<br /><br />Justin Martyr wrote that the Father teaches us, “by the word to do the same things as Himself.” (Apology 2.9, in Ante-Nicene Fathers 1.366-7.)<br /><br />“The two classic biblical texts quoted in support of deification are Psalm 82:6 ('I said, you are gods and all of you sons of the Most High') and 2 Peter 1:4 ('precious and very great promises have been granted to us, that through these you may become partakers of the divine nature'. The first of these texts (also quoted in John 10:34) was never a cause of controversy. There already existed a Jewish exegesis which applied the words, 'you are gods', originally to Adam and Eve, and then to those who kept the Torah, when Justin Martyr -the first Christian Father to quote them- used them as a gloss on the Johannine 'children of God'(1 Jn 3:1).” (Dialogue, 124. Cf. Sifre Deut. 306; Midrash Rabbah on Lev. 11:1 and 3.)<br /><br />Justin the Martyr said in 150 A.D. that he wishes “to prove to you that the Holy Ghost reproaches men because they were made like God, free from suffering and death, provided that they kept His commandments, and were deemed deserving of the name of His sons... in the beginning men were made like God, free from suffering and death, and that they are thus deemed worthy of becoming gods and of having power to become sons of the Highest” (Dialogue with Trypho, 124.)<br /><br />Also,[By Psalm 82] it is demonstrated that all “men are deemed worthy of becoming “gods,” and even “of having power to become sons of the Highest.” (Dialogue with Trypho, 124.)<br />Hannah Rebekahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05763167517979885846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-7014220377957166522014-09-15T21:03:17.936-07:002014-09-15T21:03:17.936-07:00APOSTOLIC & CHURCH FATHERS WHO TAUGHT DEIFICAT...APOSTOLIC & CHURCH FATHERS WHO TAUGHT DEIFICATION:<br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch (ca. 35 or 50-between 98 and 117)<br /><br /> Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch (ca. 35 or 50-between 98 and 117) <br />In the early second century, Ignatius of Antioch wrote:<br /><br />“For it is not my desire to act towards you as a man-pleaser, but as pleasing God, even as also you please Him. For neither shall I ever have such [another] opportunity of attaining to God...It is good to set from the world unto God, that I may rise again to Him...Suffer me to become food for the wild beasts, through whose instrumentality it will be granted me to attain to God.” (Ignatius. Letter to the Romans, Chapters 2,4)<br /><br />“He is the door of the Father, by which enter in Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the prophets, and the apostles, and the Church. All these have for their object the attaining to the unity of God.” (Ignatius. Letter to the Romans, Chapter 9)<br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />Polycarp of Smyrna (ca. 69-ca. 155)<br /><br /><br /> <br />Polycarp of Smyrna, who knew Ignatius, wrote:<br /><br />“But He who raised Him up from the dead will raise up us also, if we do His will, and walk in His commandments, and love what He loved, keeping ourselves from all unrighteousness, covetousness, love of money, evil speaking, falsewitness; "not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing," or blow for blow, or cursing for cursing, but being mindful of what the Lord...may He bestow on you a lot and portion among His saints, and on us with you, and on all that are under heaven, who shall believe in our Lord and God Jesus Christ, and in His Father, who raised Him from the dead.” (Polycarp's Letter to the Philippians. Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 1 as edited by Alexander Roberts & James Donaldson. American Edition, 1885. Sections 2,12).<br /><br />Polycarp is teaching that what happened to Jesus will also happen to true Christians.<br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />Clement I of Rome (C. 92)<br /><br /><br /> <br />Clement of Rome, also known as Pope Clement I, or Clemens Romanus, was the fourth Pope and Bishop of Rome and is considered the first Apostolic Father of the early Christian church. Clement's letter to the Corinthian church (1 Clement) was widely read and is one of the oldest Christian documents still in existence outside the New Testament.<br /><br />Few details are known about Clement's life. While sources vary, it is likely Clement became Pope and Bishop of Rome in the year 88, although it may have been as late as 92. It is somewhat certain that he died in the year 99. The Holy See's Annuario Pontificio (2003) cites a reign from 92 to 99. According to tradition, Clement was imprisoned under the Emperor Trajan and led a miraculous ministry among fellow prisoners. He was then executed by being tied to an anchor and thrown into the sea.<br /><br />Clement writes, “But they who with confidence endured [these things] are now heirs of glory and honour, and have been exalted and made illustrious by God in their memorial forever and ever. Amen.” (Clement, First Epistle of Clement, Ante-Nicene Fathers 1:17.)<br />“Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Word of God, of His boundless love, became what we are that He might make us what He Himself is...” (Henry Bettenson, The Early Christian Fathers: A Selection from the Writings of the Fathers from St. Clement of Rome to St. Athanasius (London: Oxford University Press, 1956), 106.)<br />Hannah Rebekahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05763167517979885846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-90356445396297177832014-09-15T20:59:24.051-07:002014-09-15T20:59:24.051-07:00http://manbecomegod.blogspot.com/
http://manbecomegod.blogspot.com/<br /><br />Hannah Rebekahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05763167517979885846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-16058130148439305992013-09-12T17:08:31.665-07:002013-09-12T17:08:31.665-07:00Thanks. I'm immune to Mormon verbal abuse - wh...Thanks. I'm immune to Mormon verbal abuse - when you deal with them, that is generally what you'll get! I hate to tell Mr. Shirts that he'll never be a god, and that Isa. 43:10 states:<br /><br />10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.<br /><br />Joseph Smith, the false Mormon prophet stated that "you" must learn to be gods as all the gods before you. Watch this interesting video:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6k52Q9qD_0<br /><br />I hope nobody gets too disoriented after watching this video! I'll pray for Mr. Shirts - perhaps the Lord will call him to salvation! C. Hogan<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-78133563581809605222011-10-17T17:25:52.717-07:002011-10-17T17:25:52.717-07:00William is an idiot.William is an idiot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-5023051598630186842011-02-27T06:18:35.883-08:002011-02-27T06:18:35.883-08:00thanks Carol for your crusade against false teachi...thanks Carol for your crusade against false teachings...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-31379460744640467932011-02-24T13:04:29.257-08:002011-02-24T13:04:29.257-08:00Mormon apologists continually misuse statements by...Mormon apologists continually misuse statements by C.S. Lewis in their pitiful quest to support their belief that they will one days be gods and goddesses, equal with their "heavenly father," Elohim. Frankly, they are dishonest in doing so. C.S. Lewis was a Trinitarian and recited the Nicene Creed every Sunday in the Church of England, and used a Book of Common Prayer containing the Athanasian Creed, which he, as a confirmed member of that Church, believed. Now, in case anybody out there has any doubts about this, they can go to this website and see for themselves:<br /><br />http://mormoninfo.org/discussion/was-c-s-lewis-crypto-mormonCarol Hogannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-50041399158630584622011-02-23T13:17:10.515-08:002011-02-23T13:17:10.515-08:00Thanks for warning us about Mormonism. I'll m...Thanks for warning us about Mormonism. I'll make sure that my daughter never dates one!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-35647476051289259242010-12-31T02:59:58.480-08:002010-12-31T02:59:58.480-08:00I know that you hold to the idea that Peter was no...I know that you hold to the idea that Peter was not the only leader, but if you grant that you dont have an issue with the fact that Peter is the Rock, as you seem to claim here, then the issue is related with this (and the reference I cite is from The Catholic Controversy by Saint Francis De Sales):<br />Because I could not post the whole reference, I am citing the links: http://seanhyland.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/the-authority-of-the-pope-parts-x-xi/<br />and: http://seanhyland.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/the-authority-of-the-pope-part-vii-ix/<br /><br /> The whole-book link is: http://en.wordpress.com/tag/st-francis-de-sales-catholic-controversy/Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05798358686232097132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3058579482437762937.post-74079235317374608862010-12-31T02:40:03.970-08:002010-12-31T02:40:03.970-08:00Where is the Reference?
Bible Christians, believe...<b>Where is the Reference?</b><br /><br />Bible Christians, believers in Sola Scriptura, teach that the Bible is complete and that it is all that is needed. They teach that all answers are given by Scripture. <br /><br />I wish to refute that thinking by showing that there are a lot of questions brought up in Scripture that are not answered therein. So where do we go to find those answers so that we have the fullness of truth and not just some of it?<br /><br />Matthew 11:21, <i>"Woe to thee, Corozain...For if in Tyre and Sidon had been worked the miracles that have been worked in you, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes."</i><br /><br /><b>What are these miracles in Corozain? Where is the reference?</b><br /><br />Matthew 23:2, <i>"The Scribes and the Pharisees have sat on the chair of Moses."</i><br /><br /><b>Where is this 'chair of Moses' referenced in Scripture?</b><br /><br />Acts 20:35, <i>"In all things I have shown you that by so toiling you ought to help the weak and REMEMBER the Word of the Lord Jesus, that He Himself said, 'It is more blessed to give than to receive.'"</i><br /><br /><b>Show me the verse where Jesus said these words.</b><br /><br />Matthew 2:23, <i>"And He went and settled in a town called Nazareth; that there might be fulfilled what was spoken through the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene."</i><br /><br /><b>In what verse did the prophets say this?</b><br /><br />James 4:5, <i>"Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, "The Spirit which dwells in you covets unto jealousy.""</i><br /><br /><b>Where does Scripture reference this?</b><br /><br />2Timothy 3:8, <i>"Just as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so these men also resist the truth..."</i><br /><br /><b>Who are Jannes and Jambres? Where is the reference? If you know, by what means did you find it?</b><br /><br />Hebrews 11:35, <i>"Women had their dead restored to them by resurrection. Others were tortured, refusing to accept release, that they might find a better resurrection."</i><br /><br /><b>Who are these 'others', the ones searching for a better resurrection? Where is the Bible reference?</b><br /><br />Jude 1:9, <i>"Yet when Michael the Archangel was fiercely disputing with the devil about the body of Moses..."</i><br /><br /><b>Where can this 'dispute' be found in Holy Scripture?</b> <br /><br />Jude 1:14, <i>"Now of these also Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, 'Behold, the Lord has come with thousands of His holy ones.'"</i><br /><br /><b>Where is this prophecy in Scripture? Where is the reference?</b><br /><br />Since non-Catholics are bound to Scripture and Scripture only (<i>Sola Scriptura</i>), the purpose of this post is to show that everything is not in the Bible. <br /><br />Answers to some of the questions asked here can be found through <b>Tradition,</b> and others through the <b>seven books that non-Catholics do not have in their Bibles. </b><br /><br />Some can be found in the multitude of apocryphal writings, and in the very large library of writings by the Church Fathers. <br /><br />Others simply cannot be found anywhere but have been lost forever for various reasons. It is thought that about 400,000 priceless historical writings alone were lost due to the great fire in the library of Alexandria Egypt in 48 B.C. (the actual date is debatable). <br /><br />Others have been lost simply by the deterioration of the scroll media used by the various authors of antiquity. <br /><br />Catholics have the fullness of truth since they can draw on so many resources outside of Scripture as mentioned above. <br /><br />Protestantism <b>has many pieces missing</b> to their puzzle of GOD's salvation history unless they are willing to search the Catholic sources listed. <br /><br />As long as they cling to the false doctrine of sola scriptura, they will never see the full picture. They will never have the fullness of truth.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02785255087943635803noreply@blogger.com